[olichan12]

I was wondering wtf happened to you. I was beginning to think that you went full coomer and had forgotten about football! Even though these discussion forums are basically dead, this is like the one thread that is still going, and I thought porn had finally consoomed you. Glad that's not the case.

So this past weekend in college football is what I termed slaughter. Everyone but Georgia was proved to be a paper tiger, and the new Top 10 is just proof that the Committee is desperately trying to keep TOSU and 'bama in the playoffs. I hope this doesn't happen.

'bama BARELY held off LSU, who has so many injuries, that the entire team is probably taking up a full wing of a hospital in Baton Rouge. They have one of the best coaches in college football, but they can't have an undefeated season if even the practice teamers dress out for games. So 'bama effectively beat LSU's third stringers. With their starters. Their image as a championship team was slaughtered by what's left of LSU.

Oregon truly struggled with Washington. UW isn't that good of a team, but they held Oregon down until the middle of the third quarter. It took until then for Oregon to finally start playing football. So against a bottom 50 squad, Oregon struggled. That sounds like slaughter of Oregon's national championship dreams. Just wait until a really pissed off Oregon State comes to re-teach them what it's like to not have lube.

And 3-9 UNL did the same to TOSU. A team that is sucking more ass than a tranny street hooker from Tijuana came close to actually beating the venerated TOSU. Again, slaughter of their national championship dreams. Wait until wronged Michigan goes to take their anger out on them. I think TOSU will be a two-loss team after that game. They're not as good as the Committee says they are.

Tulsa scared Cincy. That should've been 58-20, not 28-20. That might have been slaughter of Cincy's national championship dreams. But they are still undefeated... just like UT San Antonio.

Michigan struggled too much with Indiana, even though they won by three touchdowns. I think this was less slaughter and more of bitchslapping Michigan into awakeness. If they don't learn from this game, TOSU will teach them some lessons.

By far, the true and great slaughter was Purdue and Michigan State. I think the Spartans proved that their bodies are just fine, but that their mental game was truly slaughtered. That should NEVER have been that close, nor should that have been a loss for MSU. But alas, the Boilermakers became the Spoilermakers. Maybe that was karma catching up to the refs that fucked over Michigan?

In my mind, the Top 10 should be something like this:
1. Georgia
2. Cincy
3. OK
4. Michigan
5. ND (fuck this kills me to say that, those fuckers deserve UNL's record this year)
6. OK State
7. Oregon
8. TOSU
9. 'bama
10. Michigan State

Predictions for this weekend:
- Tennessee being given as a sacrifice for Georgia's near-inevitable national championship.
- New Mexico State either doing way better against 'bama, or NMSU literally being paid to be slaughtered. And why is 'bama playing NMSU this late in the season?
- Wazzu will keep it about as close as Washington did against Oregon.
- Michigan/PSU will be a fight. PSU wants to spoil Michigan's season, and Michigan desperately wants a shot at the national title. IDK if this will be a offensive or defensive game. Michigan by a little bit.
- Maryland will get spanked by Michigan State, who will still be mad about Purdue.
- TOSU is going to be scared shitless of Purdue, who now has a truly legit chance of being TOSU. I expect a conservative offense from TOSU, and some risks taken by Purdue. Purdue by a little bit. I think Purdue also has a damn good chance of winning the Big 10 championship outright.
- Baylor has a legit chance of beating OK. This one is a tough call. I'm going to say OK by a couple of points.
- ND/Virginia should be an easy win for ND, enough for them to give their starters a rest in the 2nd half.
- OK State/TCU should result in an OK State victory.
- Cincy will beat South Florida, but they'll get lazy, and it'll be way closer than it should be.

The only one of these games that will be worth a damn is Purdue/TOSU. I want to see TOSU go down just to piss off the Committee, who will probably put a two-loss TOSU ahead of an undefeated Cincy. If TOSU does lose, UTSA needs to be #4 in the nation.

Predictions for later in the season:
- TOSU will be Michigan State, probably by two touchdowns.
- Michigan will beat TOSU by the same.
- ND, unfortunately, will win the last three games of its season, giving the Committee another boner they can play with.
- Cincy will win the last three games of their season, but all of their games are easy games, as their conference is weak.
- Georgia's only "challenge" will be a weak Georgia Tech, who might be able to keep the game close.
- While OK will beat Iowa in two weekends, the OK/OK State game will be fireworks, and God only knows what will happen.
- Oregon will easily beat Wazzu and Utah, and then will fight for their lives against an Oregon State that will want more blood than the average vampire.
- No matter what happened, the Committee will either do a Georgia/ND/TOSU/'bama playoff, or a Georgia/Oregon/TOSU/'bama playoff, because that's where the money is, even if Cincy is still undefeated. Because money somehow matters more than teamwork. Or something.

[olichan12]

Idk if you saw tonight's Cincy game, but boy was it ugly. Cincy was lazy for part of the time, and then their OC just kept making stupid fucking mistakes. They have a championship caliber squad, and they showed it, but only in spurts. And then 2-7 South Florida was able to hang in there... sort of. They shot themselves in the foot plenty of times. Cincy's secondary was too good for them, and USF just kept fumbling the damn ball. This could have been a close game, but it wasn't. But man was it ugly!

One way or another, Cincy will escape the season undefeated, and will still rank behind a two-loss TOSU and 'bama because of the money the Committee gets. They'll get fucked and I think everyone knows it. Because ND/TOSU/'bama are way more important despite having losses on their records. Cincy won't get a top four bowl bid or playoff time because of the Committee. I wish the FBS had an actual playoff system, and not this hybrind playoff/big money running the Committee bullshit.

Also, Jon Gruden is suing the NFL and Roger Goodell. Finally! The NFL fucked up thinking Gruden would fold. Nope. I cannot wait to see how much dirty laundry gets aired because of this lawsuit, especially if the NFL is forced to show emails, and forced to show that what Gruden said was nothing, in comparison to what all the other coaches and execs say.

[olichan12]

I hope work hasn't been too torturous for you. Hope you at least got one game in this weekend. This weekend had some fun stuff. Here's the good stuff.
>Georgia 41 Tenn 17
Yeah, not surprised here. Actually, yeah I am. Tennessee made life miserable for UGA in the first quarter. I'm surprised that UGA couldn't score more than 41 in this game
>'bama 59 New Mexico State 3
Yay for 'bama, who showed they could be a perpetually third rate team that hasn't seen a bowl game since before WWI was invented.
>TOSU 59 Purdue 31
The only thing that surprised me was the sheer number of stupid fucking mistakes that Purdue kept making. Their defense kept fucking up, but then their offense decided to copy them. Both the DC and OC need some serious smacking around for this, because you can't blame the players for everything that went on. Purdue did great for most of the 1st quarter. And then they just threw it away. TOSU didn't win, Purdue just gave it to them for reasons I don't get. Unless bribery was involved. Then I'd get it.
>Baylor 27, OK 14
I think Baylor finally grew a pair and decided to fight for a conference title. First they downed Texas, and now undefeated (well, not anymore) Oklahoma.
>Ark 16, LSU 13 (OT)
Even with a mostly injured team running on the fumes of 3rd stringers than haven't run this much since high school football, LSU still manages to fuck their opponents in some way or another. Even though they lost here, ARK was sweating bullets here.
>Kansas 57, Texas 56
The greatest game of the week! 1-8 Kansas took on a still-potent 4-5 Texas. Unless Kansas becomes a true powerhouse team, we won't see them win like this against Texas again for quite a while. I was yelling at the TV not to go for two in the first OT, because I thought Texas's defense was till too good for Kansas. Holy shit was I wrong! Watch this game on replay if you get a chance, it's fucking worth it.

Predictions:
>The Committee will fuck over Cincy and UTSA and keep them out of the "playoff", even though they're just as undefeated as UGA.
>'bama's "win" will make them magically just as good or better than UGA
>Excuses will be made to get ND into the playoffs even though they don't have to deal with pesky things like conference championships
>I predict a four-way tie for the Big 10 (really 14 now) West: Iowa will lose to Nebraska, and Wisconsin will lose to Minnesota, making all three, plus Purdue, 5-3 in conference.
>I predict a three-way tie for the Big 10 (c'mon it's 14 dammit) East: Michigan will beat TOSU, making them, plus Michigan State, 6-1 in conference.
>The Committee will have sufficient numbers of bribes from those trying to fix the bowl games, playoffs, and the national championship game, that each member should be able to afford a luxury yacht without needing a loan
>Undefeated UTSA still gets fucked for being undefeated because they're a bottom-tier FBS school by the Committee's standards
>Cincy will get fucked by the Committee for having the audacity to do well without permission from them.

[samw34099]

broo...it has been too long....just my job...like people are dropping left and right...don't know if it is worth it but I am trying to be gud to them...OKAY!

The WHOLE PICTURE is just nuts....where to start?...probably the easiest...

CINCY, if they take care of business against an overrated Houston (prolly overrated to prop up Cincy), then CINCY IS IN! THEY ARE IN!...I will guess that they get the 4 seed...now if OK State wins against Baylor...I dunno, it is possible that they get in over Cincy...very hard to tell what the hell is going to happen tho...like, the committee is very clearly against Cincy and will use ANY excuse to keep them out...but WHAT A YEAR that a G5 team can get in...it is crazy...

Let us talk about maybe the CRAZIEST GAME last week...and that is Michigan MANHANDLING OSU...wow you called it...OSU looked scared coming into the Big House...the body language was all wrong...and then they dropped their second snap...the whole game was like that...this is the SAME OSU TEAM THAT PUT UP 49 ON MSU IN ONE HALF...and they couldn't run the damn football...meanwhile Michigan's d-line player Hutchinson was whipping 1ST ROUND TACKLES non-stop...like he got 3 SACKS IN ONE DAY AND ONE HOLD CALL against maybe the top tackles in college football...just totally crazy...I mean, OSU was supposed to take Michigan to the woodshed..they were supposed to hang 100 one them...

Meanwhile 'BAMA looked shakey....just an absolutely crazy situation where they need to drive the length of the field with seconds remaining to beat a 6-6 Auburn team...I am wondering if 'Bama is going to get beat by Georgia by more than 3 TDs...like that Georgia D is absolutely crazy...they have this huge black guy, 6'4 340 and he moves like a linebacker...that guy is a LOAD...the whole front 7 is PAIN...can't wait to see what happens, but if Georgia wins or loses they are in...

So let us skip to the good stuff...the CFP Rankings:

1. Georgia (deserved, win or lose, they are in)
2. Michigan (beat the #2 so they get the spot)
3. Cincy (again, deserved, though weak schedule minus ND--which is still weak)
4. 'Bama (win, they're in...lose they're out)

I can see a path for the Oklahoma State Cowboys to get in with a 'Bama loss. A 'Bama win, though, and they are out.

Michigan plays Iowa. Iowa is a tough team to beat. But their offense is terrible. I think Michigan wins that, but not with a ton of style points, if you know what I mean. Cincy should whip an overrated Houston, but never put it past Dana to cook up something special on offense. So, my best guess at the CFB Playoff is:

1. (1)Georgia vs. (4)Ok. State, (2) Michigan vs. (3) Cincy

Okay, so that's all fine and dandy....BUT OH MY GOD THE COACHING VACANCIES:

1. USC
2. LSU
3. Florida

Then USC goes and GETS LINCOLN RILEY from OU--AND RILEY LEAVES BEHIND A SPY!!!!...it is the craziest crap ever..and Riley is just ripping recruits from Oklahoma left and right...5 star QB...5 start RB...5 star WR...just crazy....a knife in their back for no reason I can tell...

THEN LSU GRABS THE ND COACH! Just outta nowhere a few days before early signing day!!!!!!!!!!! Why the hell he would do that I don't even know! BUT Kelly did it...AND THEN NONE OF HIS STAFF FOLLOWED HIM....that just goes to show you that he's a jerk....so there you have it...because now ND promoted their D-Coordinator...guy is loved over there...risky move....but their class stays together....but remember how that worked for Washington...they fired Lake in season 2...effing crazy stuff...

itt has been totally wild...I can't wait to hear your thoughts....sorry again...

[olichan12]

Fucking hell dude. I think you need a new job. If you're working this many hours, then your employer isn't paying you enough. Maybe find something in the defense industry. They're so down on people that you could probably name your own salary.

Ok, so I'm gonna make this quick, because I don't have much time right now.

This is my prediction for the Top 10 that ocmes out later today:
1. Alabama
2. Michigan
3. Georgia
4. Cincy
5. ND
6. Ohio State
7. Michigan State
8. Baylor
9. Ok
10. Ok State.

Right now, the Committee is pissed off, because they simply can't put ND in the playoffs, all because Cincy beat them, and because Cincy is undefeated. At the same time, the Committee is creaming its pants on a Georgia/'bama replay for the National Championship. I think that's what they're going for, and they can't get away with putting Georgia and 'bama in the same playoff game. Michigan in the National Championship game is ok, as they're Big 10 (14), but none of the want Cincy anywhere near it. This is my best guess on the "playoff" games:
Game 1: Georgia/Michigan
Game 2: 'bama/Cincy

The rest, I'll go over when I get a chance. Fuck the Committee and the NCAA for their shenanigans.

[samw34099]

....wow yea...working to hard...any good website for looking up those jobs...

....so you were so on about 1-6....i think 1-4 is fair...you were really pissed that Cincy wasn't getting respect...but in the end they got in over ND and Ohio State....'Bama deserves the 1-spot after PANTSING the Dawgs....that game was a big shocker for me...great coaching job by Saban...their running game is very iffy....Georgia's DL getting whipped by Bryce Young was nuts...I like Michigan....playing tough...not many style points except these last two games...beat the hell outta Ohio State and then Iowa...Iowa score was a little closer than it looked in the end...but still Michigan looks good...

I think 'Bama will annihilate Cincy...Vegas has them close but whatever....Georgia's fans are saying they're going to play 'Bama and get revenge and blah,lbah, blah...but you can't overlook this Michigan team....very interesting matchup for sure....I think we'll see a 1-2 matchup ('Bama-Michigan)....but i will keep reading about the teams....

ND got left out in the cold...that's fair...lost to the last team in....I mean that's what ND gets for not joining a conference...it's so stupid....they should be in the B1G and be over with it....just dumb.....Ohio State is not looking good...just saw they made a DC hire...Gundy's DC....I mean we will see...not sure this is going to work out for them to start from scratch like that...could be very interesting...

you got tripped up with the rest of the ranking....but these teams are pretty much switchable...Michigan State faded down the line....Baylor didn't have the record for it...OK State lost to Baylor...just a bunch of dumb stuff....in terms of performance I think I like how you ranked them...but lots of room for discussion there....

MORE coaching news....Super Mario left Oregon hanging day before signing day and now he's at DA U...I don't feel bad for how they treated Manny Ramierez the way he left Temple...he had it coming...very interested to see how NSD shakes out....OU landed on the DC from Clemson and don't look now but Clemson looks like they are in trouble....Dabo needs a top DC before they completely fall apart...very odd situation...ND landed on their feet--interesting hire to do it internally with their DC....he connects well with players, at least....

1 mor topci--NIL money....Texas is killing it...150k to their OL...right off the bat...before the OL are pushing for their own sponsorship, they each get 50 grand.....crazy....

[olichan12]

Poor ND and TOSU. I don't feel bad for them. They deserved to just go to a regular bowl game and get money and play one more game this year. I won't actually be surprised if one of the bowl games actually is ND/TOSU. That won't be a bad game, and the organizers will just be drowning in cash. And who doesn't like that?

>'bama/Cincy
Unless Cincy starts making mistakes in the 1st quarter, this'll be a close game, and possibly similar to the 'bama/Auburn game. I don't see 'bama pulling away untl the 4th quarter, and late in the 4th at that. But if Cincy starts making mistakes, and keeps making them, then it'll be a slaughter. And I can't tell which scenario it will be. There is a chance that Cincy just nails it, and 'bama makes too many mistakes. If that acutally happens, then Cincy will win by one or two points. I hope this is the case, but I really doubt it.

>UGA/UM
This is a tough one. Everyone thought UGA was untouchable until 'bama got ahold of them. And everyone thought that UM wasn't all that great until the B1G Championship. I think that this will be a VERY close game, and I can't tell who will win. I suspect that UGA will be so focused on getting vengeance on 'bama that it might just upset their chances playing UM. And UM is hungry for a National Championship, and they're going to prepare very very very intently. As in, analyzing every single thing there is, and preparing everyone extremely carefully. This is where Harbaugh will shine.

I really hope for a UM/Cincy National Championship Game. I just want to hear all those high-rolling gamblers crying because all their bribery got them nowhere. Plus, I want to hear the kvetching of the Committee as they see an N.C. matchup that just doesn't fit their narrative about how only 5/20 of the Conferences are worthy of being in the National Championship Game. UM would probably win such a matchup. But damn, I just want to see and hear all that bitching!

>Rankings
Yeah, I screwed up the Top 10, except for the Top 4. I can kinda see why the Committee chose the way they did with the Top 10, so it's not a total loss. The only way we're gonna get a true top 10 is if the playoffs include a 3/4 place game, a 5/6 game, etc. And that won't happen while the NCAA still exists, because money. And the rest of the rankings are just... I'm not sure what they are, really. Maybe just they just used a dartboard and listed them in the order of whoever got the most dart hits.

>Coaches
This is the part I haven't honestly followed, but there should be a rule that no coaching changes (hirings AND firings) can occur until the National Championship Game has been played. This isn't the NFL where everyone can be fired and hired at will. The NCAA needs some stability, and needs to kind of be an antithesis to the NFL.

But if it is true that Lincoln Reily left OU, and took his 5 star recruits with him to USC, then that tells me one of a couple of things: 1. The players have personal loyalty to him, and not OU, which is why they left; or 2. OU did something really fucking stupid to him that caused him to leave. If #1 is the case, then the man could actually start a true college dynasty, much like Pete Carroll.

That's all I got for now. Football takes a lot of energy out of you.

[samw34099]

...OSU is going to the Rose Bowl against Utah, actually....I saw Utah play Oregon...they are a tough football team and their coach Wittingham has them playing at an incredible level despite two kids on the team dying...ND will play OK State in the Fiesta Bowl...I would've picked OK State, but their DC is headed to play with Ohio State, so it's all jacked up...never underestimate Gundy, tho...

CINCY/'BAMA....I am a little surprised at your view...just see what 'Bama did to Georgia...Saban is going to out-talent the hell outta Cincy....and then who wants to play that guy when he has 4 weeks to prepare....Cincy had a good run but they feasted on creampuffs this year...would be very surprised if it is even within two scores...

GEORGIA/UM...here's the thing....Georgia has superior-rated talent all over the place...but I think Michigan has better coaches...this year, Georgia has been able to shut down inferior-talented teams easily....they have the #1 defense and a top 5 offense.....but they ain't played no one...meanwhile, the Michigan offense moved the ball on Wisco, Iowa, and PSU...Wisco/Iowa are top 10 defenses and PSU was underrated at the time but they are great too...to win, Michigan is going to need an OSU-level game...they are going to need to play lights-out....but they can absolutely win this thing

COACHES...just want to give you a summary...

USC--took Riley from OU
OU--took DC Venables from Clemson
LSU--took Kelly from ND
ND--promoted DC Freeman
Miami--took Cristobal from Oregon
Florida--took Napier from Louisiana-Lafayette
Oregon--still open. Attractive job, but slightly less so with Riley, a top-notch recruiter, at USC.

.....absolutely CRAZY year for coaching....some prem-o jobs were available...some of the lesser jobs (Virginia, Duke, etc.) are still open, too...

[olichan12]

>Rose Bowl
I expect Utah to actually spank TOSU on that one. Despite their losses this year, Utah is fucking tough. And TOSU is still reeling from their loss to UM, and I don't see them recovering soon enough. But that'll be a good game. Good to see a classic Pac-12/B1G matchup

>Cincy/'bama
Saban is going to basically be desperate to win, so he'll pull out all the stops. Like I said, as long as Cincy doesn't make too many mistakes, 'bama won't be able to pull away until the 4th. The Auburn game is what showed where 'bama's weaknesses are, and I think Cincy will use that as a roadmap to figure out how to beat 'bama. I don't see this being a rollover win for 'bama unless Cincy just keeps fucking up, much like Wake Forest did with UM.

>UGA/UM
If it really is talented UGA vs better coached UM, then I'm gonna put my money on UM. If this were the NFL, I'd go with talent, instead of coaching. Cfb is still about teamwork, and Harbaugh was able to show that teamwork works.... except when certain schools get certain calls that allow them to win *cough* MSU *cough*. UGA somehow lost to 'bama, who barely beat three-loss Auburn. So UGA has weaknesses, and you know that Harbaugh is going to exploit every one of them. I still think this is a tossup game, and it's gonna be a ton of fun to watch.

>Coaches
Where the fuck is Ogeron going then, since Kelly has LSU now? Why the fuck did LSU get rid of him? I know they've had a shit season this year, but you can't help injuries, that's just life. I wonder about the logic of Athletic Directors sometimes...

And why exactly was Kelly given a 10 year deal? Ten? Really? A four-year-deal makes sense. This does not. It reeks of bribery/payback/money laundering of some sort. LSU is a state school, but they just guranteed him $95 million over a decade. But who makes decades-long contracts? Unless it was Carroll after the 2005 Season (which should have happened but fuck you NFL), this makes no sense. There's something else going on there, and it's shady af.

I'm glad that USC got Riley, but we'll see what happens. L.A. teams have been under this weird curse the last 10-20 years, where no matter how much talent you have, you're still not gonna win. The Dodgers are a great example, having gone to the World Series a bunch of times, but only winning the one year where there were no fans. USC keeps getting hamstrung by this curse. Same with (f)ucla, the Kings, the Lakers, etc.

I watched part of the ND ceremony for their new coach on ESPN3. That was... boring. The Catholic Pastor that spoke fucked up and basically said to Coach Freeman, "thanks for staying", as if he had been begged to stay. That was the most unemotional, uneventful, and downright depressed, coaching promotion I've ever seen. I wonder if bad shit is happening at ND on the downlow...

I"m happy that Oregon got fucked by Miami, and Florida chose an interesting guy to steal. Of course, ULL is 12-1 on the season, but still not even in the Top 15, even though they are also an FBS school. Maybe Florida should just go back in time and convince Steve Spurrier to not leave Florida for the NFL.

Really. I hate all these coaching changes DURING the season. Fuck it, make everyone wait until after the National Championship Game is over. And fuck Obregon for leaving early, unless he was fired. Then he should've told his guys that he was fired.

That's all I got tonight.

[samw34099]

...Rose Bowl...very hard to disagree with you....tOSU is looking at a very physical Utah team...also tOSU is bringing on a new DC...it's a weird hire...they hired a guy who was a Duke and better known for his anti-spread offenses in the Big 12...but the B1G and Utah are hardnosed, run-first, I-form teams...just crazy...

...Cincy/'Bama...I think it really comes down to Bryce Young...btw saw him in some Heisman promo stuff--dude definitely isn't even 6'...'Bama's talent is just so overwhelming it would REALLY surprise me if they don't destroy a G5 team that recruits pretty well but doesn't have that blue chip ratio...okay but I admit ur convincing me....really interesting insights...and you've called some things...maybe I need to go back to that Auburn game....

...Georgia/UM...just one quick note...Georgia's DC left (more later)....they'll bring up Muschamp (on staff as an analyst) as a co-DC with another hire...so I think they will be a little bit distracted...but Michigan might never live it down if they lose with Georgia seeing all these changes...

...COACHES....so here's a weird piece of the puzzle to explain all the contracts...first an update--

Oregon--Georgia DC Lanning

OKAY, so why all the crazy contracts...starts with Michigan State paying Tucker absolutely stupid money for a 10-year contract...Tucker had a good year for MSU (10-2, losses to tOSU and Purdue...lol)...but he is a career .500 coach...it makes market sense b/c there were rumors that at-the-time LSU would offer him crazy money...so makes sense for what others would offer...makes no sense based on how he has done...

neway started a who bunch of dumb contracts....Franklin at PSU got a 10 year crazy deal...USC is rumored to give Riley 12-14(!!!)...then LSU gave Kelly another 10 year deal....very interesting is Venables took around 6--you could say he has achieved even more than Tucker but not as a head coach...

...but the CRAZIEST fallout--Dabo at Clemson lost his star DC to Oklahoma, his not-so-great OC to the HC position at Virginia, and his AD to Miami---really interested to see how he will do...Clemson's recruiting class is looking bad...

looking forward to seeing how this all shakes out!!!!

[olichan12]

>Coaches
The coaches part is throwing me off really bad. LIke, it's a bad sign, not a good sign. If this weren't college football, this would be screaming money laundering. I'm quite sure there is money laundering involved. But, I think it's more bribery/payback. Better said, I think these coaches are being given a shit ton of money under the guise of long contracts. But none of these coaches will get their full amounts. Instead, the university will pay them less than the contract, and the amount they deduct will simply disappear off the books, to whomever is using the universities to launder money. I could explain all this here (it would destroy your worldview of cfb), but basically, persons are being paid off via coach contracts. And then when they get fired after a couple of years, it means the pay offs are done, and the coaches will get a good chunk of their full contract back, to keep them quiet. No wonder I can't stand what's going on in the NCAA right now. This shit should be going on only in the NFL!

>UGA/UM
That's another thing in UM's favor: the chaos on the UGA side. Adding and deleting coaches, especially before a big game, is a bad thing. Most guys are young, and still need the stability of the same coaches, just as young kids need the stability of both parents. Changing coaches like this on players really divides teams, and subconsciously creates distrust between the players and the coaches. This should really work in UM's favor, because UM has a united team that truly believes in itself, their goal, and in their coaches, especially Harbaugh. A high energy/high trust/high power team vs. a high power/high energy/medium trust team. This game is gonna be all sorts of interesting. I just hope that my gut feeling that the outcome has already been bought and paid for is wrong.

>Cincy/'bama
"bama does have a ton of great talent, but they also proved that teams with a lot less talent can hang with them. In other words, their talent gets too cocky. With all of the shit talking about Cincy not being worthy of being there, they might just get too overconfident, and fuck themselves. Auburn played as a team, and 'bama BARELY held on. Two extra minutes on that clock, and it would be ND in 'bama's place in the "playoff". Pete Carroll's USC didn't have a ton of blue chip recruits. But he had a bunch of Southern Californians who fucking loved football, and fucking BELIEVED in being Trojans. That's how USC did so well under him. A ton of talent isn't necessary to win championships; teamwork is. That's why I think Cincy has a chance here.

This is too much bad fucking drama for cfb. Aaannnddd that's all I got.

[samw34099]

COACHES...dude you are such a creative thinker....love reading your things...thank you so much....well what I read is that the crazy stuff is SUPER CRAZY because of early signing day...they made two signing days a couple of years ago....this compresses hiring season a bunch...instead of stringing things out a bit more the panic is increased by the time crunch....

...the other things ure talking about...I think it is called 'buyouts' and I really don't know how these are negotiated...I just know that people don't get all the money back all at once...I heard more about money laundering with the new NIL deals...interested to see how they are in the coach contracts too...

RECRUITING...really crazy how these staffs are even going to get these recruiting classes together...especially if Day leaves....I mean, for example Kelly doesn't even have a staff--everyone seems to hate that guy and no one followed him to LSU....lol

GEORGIA/UM...I agree that this kind of crazy turnover can really screw things up....the real temptation is the same with 'Bama...the talent differential is really big....then again, one of their 5 stars at the most important position is riding the pine (5 star QB)...one thing that might help Georgia is their start WR was hurt...he might have enough time to heal up...another thing that weirds me out is that Vegas has Georgia -8 on a neutral field...what do they know that we dont...might be a 'match fixing' thing you were talking about...

'BAMA/CINCY....you have me convinced I think...because I saw a Michigan team out-muscle Ohio State...dominate them with sound, tough football...and 'Bama just can't run the ball this year...God knows why man...REALLY love your USC comparison b/c it is so easy to forget that these guys weren't always the most talented team on the field....plus great coaching strategies from Pete like changing DL spacing---really subtle stuff...

soo I'll come back probably Early NSD...make some comments about stuff...

[olichan12]

If you want me to burst your bubble on what's going on with this coach stuff, I"ll do it, but you won't look at CFB the same again. It's really depressing to see, I'll tell you that. Otherwise, if I get to see any of the FCS playoff games, I will comment. But I'll be here on the 31st to see what happens with both FBS "playoff" games. Don't fap so hard that you can't watch football!

[samw34099]

BURST IT!

Just a few thoughts on recruiting...

not sure how USC is managing to pull in guys...their class may be under 10 dudes total....but they are absolutely cleaning up 4- and 5-stars left and right...like USC probably won't be good for another couple of years...last year's class wasn't bad but the one b4 it was nearly 70th...yikes....not sure how that will sort itself out...

LSU had the creepiest commit vid with this QB and Jim Kelly going butt-to-butt on a rotating stage....looked awful...along with Kelly imitating a southern accent....OMG so cringe...we will see what happens when Kelly squares off against the big boys in the SEC...

Clemson managed to recover nicely...they have a top 25 class after losing their OC and DC before NSD...and speaking of their DC he pulled in a top 10 class at OU...very impressed with him...ditto ND keeping things together...

BUT HOW ABOUT A&M?...MONSTER class...5 5-stars and 19 4-star guys...big-boy football with this NIL money flowing in...A&M is not done yet and could have a HISTORICALLY good class...even UT isn't seeing that kinda love...

I think UNC has the most annoying class this year...crummy production...not even in the ACC CG...top 10 class...Mack Brown is a magician I will tell ya what...ditto Penn State...just another ho-hum, diaster year and they get a class above B1G champ Michigan...I think their '23 class is supposed to be downright NASTY too...u could argue same with UT but Texas has that NIL game figured out they were pulling guys away from OSU at the last minute....very impressive stuff from Sark...let us see if he can finally do some winning tho...

Biggest negative hit from a coaching change is probably the U...got Cristobal around there and plenty of unsigned guys...so maybe things can get turned around for him in the 22 class...I think Cristobal is going to make some serious noise down there in Miami if the boosters don't screw him first...

NEW COVID PROTOCOLS FROM CFB COMMITTEE...so now if a team is vaxed--no issue they don't need to report anything...unvaxed player must be COVID-negative in 72 hours...if a semifinal team is unable to play, game is a no-contest and a forfeit..if a FINALS team can't play because of COVID it can be PPD....

Georgia has reported 2 cases so far (JT Daniels, 5-star QB who rides the pine...and Pickens a WR who is amazing but hurt)...Michigan vaxed the entire team (so they don't even need to test!)....'Bama just reported OC and DC got COVID....just crazy....very possible these SEC teams forfeit b/c of the situation in the South...

[olichan12]

>BURST IT!
It's gonna take me a couple of days to write it. We're gonna go back in time to days that were thought to be innocent, but really weren't.

>recruiting
Your take on recruiting is spot on. I'm actually glad that Clemson managed to put a good class together. And you're right on USC: it's gonna be a couple of years before they make the top 10 again. But they'll make the top 10 again, and solidly. Lincoln Riley was the right choice, and I'm glad we got him! And I have no idea how Texas A&M got such a class. That was a surprise.

The biggest surprise to me was Jackson State University, an FBS nobody. Except that their head coach is Deion Sanders. They were 11-2 under him this year, with their second loss being the bowl game they got spanked at. He doesn't have a top 20 recruiting class. But he got some good talent in, especially for being such an unknown school. I wonder if he can pull a Cincy next year.

Speaking of Cincy: what are the chances people will "get sick" before the game? Those "Covid Protocols" are bullshit, and I think are the way out for Cincy, as their coach is getting threatened, and told to lose the game. And that's why a PLAYOFF game can be forfeited, but a National Championship game can't. Yeah. Bullshit. And 'bama is hungry and they're spending a lot of money to make sure they get a championship. This is fucking dirty, and I really hope that Cincy cleans up on 'bama. They (and their benefactors) need some serious embarassment and monetary loss.

And hopefully Michigan doesn't have any players have heart attacks on the field, like professional soccer is having. Seriously. This vax is killer. You think they would have made sure that the athletes get the saline control shot. But nope. I guess they couldn't pay enough to guarantee that.

I'll start working on your story. It's long. And we're going to start in a place outside of college football, because it won't make sense unless I do that.

[samw34099]

....BURST...looking forward to your explanation...sounds like it's a real hum-dinger if its starting outside of CFB...take your time no problem!!

...RECRUITING...you know, I wasnt such a big fan of Clemson at first...but Dabo seems like he's a gracious winner...really being chummy with that Iowa State coach who continues to tear it up Campbell...I mean Campbell has been doing so well that there were rumors Michigan or other teams would hire him after this season (obviously not because of a great season for Michigan...JSU is such a hilarious story...those HBCUs might start making some noise...but I think you're right that this is less about HBCUs and more about Deon Sanders...I personally think he'll have a great season and then come back to FSU when that job opens up....

...BOWL GAMES AND PLAYOFFS...so many cancellations and reshuffling...Hawaii Bowl canceled and most recently BC/ECU....interesting idea about Cincy...we will see what happens...interestingly Cincy is the only playoff team NOT canceling media appearances....some people speculate that Michigan, Georgia, and 'Bama have some COVID issues but they are trying to not tip off their opponents...kinda crazy if that is the case...just an update: Michigan vaxed everyone but there are rumors that their star safety Dax Hill STILL hasn't made the trip to Miami....'Bama's OC and DC are in COVID protocols...Georgia's Daniels and that former 5-star WR who came back from an ACL reportedly had COVID....so there is plenty of smoke in the air....

interesting scores...Auburn dropping one to Houston makes Cincy look great...I think the SEC hasn't won a bowl game yet...that is just crazy....Minnesota looked good against WV...their HUGE tackle ran in for a hilarious touchdown...Tech beat down their ex-coach who made some very serious accusations about their program...Western Michigan won their first bowl game on American soil which is hilarious...Air Force racked up a win vs. Louisville...love to see a service academy do some damage...BYU somehow lost their game to UAB (ouch)...Western Kentucky finished up with a win against App State...WKU was a ton of fun to watch this year....

[olichan12]

Sorry I'm late on replying. LIfe keeps happening. I can't seem to do much else than what I have to do to live atm, so this shit is coming out way more slowly than I want.

The "playoff" games were absolutely frustrating to watch. I didn't get to watch the entire UM/UGA game, but from what I saw, it confirmed what I thought: the game was rigged. I'm gonna go over this now. And fuck the National Championship game tomorrow. I swear that thing is rigged to let 'bama win.

>Cincy/'bama
Cincy gave that game to 'bama, and 'bama didn't truly win. 'bama got lucky, and it was nice to see Nick Saban frustrated out of his mind in the 2nd quarter, wondering why he couldn't beat this backwater team from Ohio. The reason Cincy lost was because of three things: major coaching mistakes, their defensive setup, and their qb could not compensate for 'bama d-lineman #48.

<Defensive setup:
'bama's first drive down the field seemed glorious, until you noticed that Cincy was running a 3-2 up front. When five offensive lineman go against three defensive linemen, who do you think is gonna win? The toothfairy? Cincy prepared for this game as if 'bama was going to pass for most of the game, and their defense showed that. But that defense didn't do very well until the 2nd quarter on. When you run a three-two, you can only do that against offenses that can't run for shit. The problem is that 'bama could actually run - but only when you just had the three d-linemen rushing the offensive line. When both linebackers blitzed, 'bama's run game came to an halt. Cincy should have practiced a switch to a 4-2 with one lineback blitzing, as part of their defensive package. Had that happened, 'bama would have been stuck passing for most of the game.

All that being said, Cincy did a really good job of stopping their run, considering their defensive posture. It proved that 'bama is not as good as everyone says.

Ironically, both teams were afraid of the other passing, so both set their defenses to pass.

<'bama #48:
That is one good defensive lineman! He was beating his opponent on every down, and jumped up and blocked Cincy's passes so much, that he effectively shut down the right side for Cincy's passing options. The right tackle couldn't really handle him, so drove him outside, like he was supposed to, but he could keep up with the guy enough to truly push him too far out of the way. Cincy's QB should have recognized this problem, and pump faked to make the guy jump, before actually passing the ball. That's something that has to be taught. So Cincy's QB has some stuff to learn.

<Coaching mistakes:
Off the top of my head, this is where Cincy fucked up:
- Going for it on 4th down
- Not taking the two chances at field goals
- Not adjusting their defense for 'bama's run game
- Not challenging the obvious touchdown they got that was ruled an incomplete pass
- Not keeping the ball on the ground on their opening offensive drive
- Not keeping fresh legs for the offensive line (this few will agree with)
- Not adjusting for when 'bama switched to man pass coverage
- No trick plays

Their coaches were not thinking straight, and they were also not thinking outside the box.

<Misc
- Cincy proved that they could hang with the big guys and fight
- 'bama proved that they aren't as good as everyone thinks
- 'bama proved better at taking the right opportunities
- The game was rigged against Cincy because of that touchdown that they obviously got but was taken away from them. (Did Cincy's coach get told by the refs or someone upstairs not to throw the challenge flag?)
- Cincy proved that 'bama has some serious holes in their run game
- 'bama proved that they can't count on their QB as much
- 'bama's front defensive line is not to be taken lightly
- Cincy's run game is better than people think
- Cincy needs to learn to run outside their tackles

>UM/UGA
I can't say much about this game, as I didn't get to watch it all the way, nor could I watch it on replay. But, my thesis is that the game was bought and paid for, and UM had to take the fall. When UM scores only 3 points, and then stays that way for the longest time, something is most unrightously up. They managed to get to 11 points, but not before UGA had 34. So wtaf?

A few days before the game, Harbaugh put out some statement, or had a press conference, where he said one of his players might not dress out for the game. The reason that was given was "personal", not medical, and that he was going through "something". Personal shit is never mentioned at press conferences, so this was a huge red flag to me. There was something off about Harbaugh, so that's when I got the feeling that the fix was in.

In Superb Owl 52, the Patriots lost to Philadelphia. Bill Belichick threw that game hard like he was Charlie Sheen throwing out a bad-performing prostitute. What did he do? He pulled one of his best defensive players, and that changed the entire game. Even Tom Brady, in all his ancientness, couldn't save that game. But Belichick got even with that move.

Why do I bring this up? Because I think that Harbaugh was forced to do the same thing, but because certain powers told him to. I honestly don't know if he made sure that a starter or two was missing. But whatever he did, he was forced to throw this game. UM had all the keys needed to beat UGA. And they were confident after ass raping TOSU and getting the B1G championship. How the hell does the B1G champ lose to the SEC runner-up? By intentionally throwing a game And that's the ONLY thing that explains why UM did so poorly against UGA.

And Covid had jack shit to do with this. With all the pro atheletes dying from the Covid shots, I'm sure that each time got either the saline shots, or got their cards faked. These schools aren't about to damage their investments.

>The National Championship "Game"

I'm calling it that 'bama will win, and that the game is bought and paid for. Certain people paid a LOT of money to make sure that 'bama wins the national championship game again. And certain other people wanted an all SEC national championship, and they paid a lot of money for this. Considerng how much money that 'bama puts into their athletes, including their new $70 million dollar athlete complex, I think that 'bama is a huge money pit with a whole lot of donors, and access to other cash. UGA doesn't have this, and so they can't pay for it.

Part of me also thinks that the winners of each year are usually picked in advance, and unless some team(s) comes and upsets that plan, that's how it goes. Pete Carroll at USC was a huge monkeywrench thrown into their plans, which is why they fucked him into the NFL. Having USC as a powerhouse really upsets the SEC and the B1G a lot.

>Overall
This year's season was proof that things don't always go according to (((their))) plan. Cincy, Coastal Carolina, Jackson State, etc, all fucked the ratings hard. Cincy was the one thing they couldn't stop, especially after what they did to ND. The irony will be that the 4th place team - Cincy - will have a better record than the 2nd place team. All this makes me wonder how much money is being spent on bookies in Vegas right now...

And speaking of money: did you see how many times I mentioned it? That'll be part of the subject of my next post, the one about what's really going on with cfb, the one that I'm gonna ruin your worldview about it. It makes it hard for me to even enjoy it anymore. But fuck the NFL, that's all money, and there's no fun in that. And I wish that Covid hadn't cancelled the XFL.

Lastly: I really hope that L.A.'s Covid protocols fuck the NFL, and force them to hold the Super Bowl in Texas. I don't care that the Chargers have a pretty new stadium in Carson. L.A. needs to get fucked by their own rules. Let them lose all that sweet, sweet, tourist cash.

[samw34099]

....always great to hear from you...before I give a reply about my recap...now that you know who won the natty....how does that influence your view on 'Bama having bought and paid for it basically...

[olichan12]

I was going to write my other post, but I guess I should chime in on the nat'l championship "game".

First of all: that game was EEERILY similar to the 'bama/Cincy game, with the exception of UGA's final touchdown. If Cincy hadn't made the mistakes they had, then they would've been in the same position 'bama was just before UGA's final touchdown, right down to the points. I can't tell if that was scripted or coincidence. Even Nick Saban's reactions were the same, at roughly the same intervals in the game. It was entirely odd.

But - I kept feeling that the game was bought and paid for by 'bama (but UGA fixed that problem). I just couldn't shake that feeling. Then I saw something: not even 30 seconds after UGA went up to 26-18, the game director changed the main camera focus, something that was incredibly strange and unnecessary: he focused on one of the rich person's sky boxes. Specifically, one of the high rolling 'bama sky boxes. All of the men in there (older white men, probably went to college in the 60s) got up and WALKED AWAY. They fucking left! This camera shot was only there for maybe 3-5 seconds, and had nothing to do with what the commentators were saying. Bear in mind that 'bama had PLENTY of time left on the clock to go down the field and score and tie the game, with plenty of time leftover for UGA to try and best them before time ran out. Why would 'bama high rollers leave when 'bama was nowhere close to out of the game?

That's when it dawned on me that these high rollers had not only bought the game, but had bet VERY SPECIFICALLY, so that they would win a ton of money, on top of seeing their alma mater win the game. When UGA went up 26-18, that basically fucked their bets, as the score didn't match their bets. I figured that, at that point, they not only lost their bets, but that UGA had a legit chance of winning, so they all walked away from their losses.

Strangely, Nick Saban was oddly calm in his post-game interview. There was something very weird about how he reacted to the game, at least in my mind.

Your turn: was the game bought? If so, by who?

[samw34099]

...bro...I gotta be honest, the level of your analysis on these things really just blows me away...I def didn't notice the guys leaving...very interesting

...I don't have an eye for things like you do...I jus think that Georgia had a generational defense...I mean Michigan's OL wins the outland trophy as the best OL in CFB and Georgia just put the screws to them...they have Davis...340 and 6'4--moves like a regular linebacker...they have Dean, their LB, a guy who really has the wheels of a CB...can play in space and even put his hand in the dirt if its is necessary...'Bama pulled one out because of a Heisman performance from their QB...but even 'Bama didn't have the horses to stay in that one...I just think they got outplayed pure and simple..that is honestly what I saw...

...I am pretty sure guys like Urban Meyer would make some shady money on the side doing stuff for/against the spread against teams where his OSU/Florida teams could control the gaem...you taught me about that website...but at this level of CFB....the idea that a game can get thrown like that is really hard for me to believe...especially down south people really love their football...it's hard for me to see a team like 'Bama throwing a game like that...

...I'll say this...by paying players the very top of CFB is going to be less like a mountain and more like a plateau...going to be a bunch of top-level teams bringing home that big money...TAMU just brough home a nutso class--top in the nation and 1 of da best alll time!!...maybe that is where you might see some big-time cheating going on....where guys just say 'f-it' and the money comes pouring in whatever the rules...