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Ruben Arrested
#21
Quote:With the caveat that I have not watched these videos myself, nor do I have even the slightest desire to do so, my understanding of them as they have been described to me is as follows:

His basic M.O. was to catfish/trick a girl into sending him nudes of herself (pretty typical/mild content at first); topless pics, maybe a full nude), but once he had a few of them he would start blackmailing them. He would threaten to send them friends and acquaintances he had looked up on her social media profiles, or even her family/parents.

These girls tended to be very young (thus why they are banned on this board; for good reason), and his made them incredibly susceptible to this sort of blackmail/manipulation. Instead of going to people who may have helped them, like the police, they were convinced that the sending of those pictures would "ruin their lives". He would also prove his seriousness by sending the pictures to a few of their friends right away (or at the first sign of non-compliance or hesitation).

After the blackmailing started, his demands would get more and more rough. Instead of just pictures, he would demand videos and then eventually Skype Chats. And the Skype chats were insanely predatory, often requiring penetration with objects, and often while the girls were crying and saying no. The scariest part is I have heard some of the girls formed a sort of Stockholm Syndrome attachment to him over time.

It really is vile what he did. I know most of the time on forums like these we walk in a grey area, but really there are just some lines that as human beings we should reject out of hand. The person who described it to me called it "basically rape", but really, depending on what state the girls lived in and thus what jurisdiction it is tried under (not to mention under federal law which he could also be tried under without double jeopardy applying due to the dual sovereignty doctrine) there is no "basically". Using blackmail to force someone to penetrate themselves is, in most jurisdictions, considered rape. And because of the girls' ages, which are aggravating factors under the law, he is never going to see the outside of a jail cell again.

I, personally, would love to follow along with this asshole's trial and see what he eventually gets hit with since the media isn't really covering it. So anything you got that doesn't violate Forum rules, I'd thank you for!

Can I ask you where have you heard that one of his girls get Stockholm syndrom? Or what was her name?
I personally think that if it is true that one of the girls that he was blackmailing get Stockholm syndrom, it was Athena. But that is only my personal suggestion, because I do not even heard that one of the girls get Stockholm syndrom before I have read your post.

As far as I know, he made long series including lots of Skype calls only with Athena, Hannah and Gabrielle. What was with other girls? Do you think that they simply refused to continue playing his "game" or did he leave them alone because he was not amused by them anymore?

By the way, one more question - take it as food for thought. Do you think that from moral perspective there is big difference between for example blackmailing 13 yo girl (Hannah) to do nasty and quite painful things (inserting handle of the brush in her asshole, gaping her asshole until when she even bleed, sucking banana until she nearly vomited, threating her until she became crying) and for example Realgirls stuff where girls usually around 18 yo (sometimes younger but sometimes also older) are also blackmailed to insert various things in all their holes, vomit, drink piss and smearing, licking or even eating their own shit?
Of course there is difference in the law - there are much more strict punishments for crimes committed against the children. But from moral point of view... to be honest I do not really see big difference between Ruben and Realgirls' producer. I see both as resembling.

Quote:'this asshole was banned from this forum.'

yet you guys still upload ruben sets in this forum. embarassing


 I think that Celina was 18 in the time when he was blackmailing her. I am not sure about it, it is only my surmise.
But I personally think, that girls blackmailed by Ruben which are not obviously underage should be allowed here given the fact that Realgirls are allowed here although they were sometimes forced do even more degrading things in their videos than Ruben's.

By the way, as far as I know and what I have seen, Ruben has not copro fetish so unlike Realgirls, he did not force his victims to do scat activities.
On time when he was really angry about Gabrielle because she was not obeying him, he forced her to piss in a cup and pour it on her head, but it was quite unusualness from him and I do not know that he force Gabrielle or any other girl to do it again.

I also do not know nothing about suicide of any of his victim, although there is no doubt that they were suffering. I heard some rumours that one of the girls (I personally think that most probably it was Gabrielle but again, it is only my suggestion) try to commit suicide, but fortunately she did not succeed and survived.

By the way it is interesting if Ruben really thinks that he is safe in Mexico, because Mexico usually obey orders from U.S. and at least extraditions their citizens almost in all cases when U.S. asked them to do. I understand it when if he was for example Russian, because Russia hardly ever extradite their citizens abroad  - but that is different story.

Do you have a suggestion how they caught him. I suppose that it was not really a big deal to track him, because of his pretty low security measures. But I wonder if some of his victims report everything to police or if his activities were revealed by some social site algorithm which consider his activities as suspicious and report him firstly to some moderators, which naturally immediately contacted police.



#22
The Celina girl is still on her socials so damage was limited (I think). Last year in the summer I saw a picture of Ruben's face. I knew then time was ticking for that bloke.



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#23
Can I ask you where did you saw it?
I heard something that he accidentally showed his face in one of his Skype record for a less than second. He didn't notice it and post that video, but someone did and post his face on Redit. But I do not know if it is true, because last summer I did not even know anything about this Ruben and his Blackmail series - I get known about him when I found videos of Gabrille on jblinks.al (where I used to download hebe webcams) in late autumn/winter 2019.

By the way, do you think that he was arrested because of that picture or if that picture at least played important role in his arrest, or the law enforcers were already tracking him with some of their high-tech get gets and spying softwares?



#24
Yea scary sounding, I've only heard of his name in a few other places. He should definitely get life behind bars, hope the people he blackmailed are feeling a bit safer now.



#25
(14-06-2020, 02:32 PM)fradleck Wrote: i really hope none of the girls committed suicide

the girls that he made to carve their skin probably, he is truly a monster. theres a list of demands he publicized with the sets, i believe he may have been selling them or he simply just sent it all after he was bored with a girl... he would make a monthly call with these girls, some over 3 year period. it was truly disturbing reading what he asked them to do.



#26
For anyone curious, his trial has been continued (postponed) until December 1



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#27
wtf thats insane, scary



#28
(16-06-2020, 11:02 AM)Spinooko Wrote:
Quote:With the caveat that I have not watched these videos myself, nor do I have even the slightest desire to do so, my understanding of them as they have been described to me is as follows:

His basic M.O. was to catfish/trick a girl into sending him nudes of herself (pretty typical/mild content at first); topless pics, maybe a full nude), but once he had a few of them he would start blackmailing them. He would threaten to send them friends and acquaintances he had looked up on her social media profiles, or even her family/parents.

These girls tended to be very young (thus why they are banned on this board; for good reason), and his made them incredibly susceptible to this sort of blackmail/manipulation. Instead of going to people who may have helped them, like the police, they were convinced that the sending of those pictures would "ruin their lives". He would also prove his seriousness by sending the pictures to a few of their friends right away (or at the first sign of non-compliance or hesitation).

After the blackmailing started, his demands would get more and more rough. Instead of just pictures, he would demand videos and then eventually Skype Chats. And the Skype chats were insanely predatory, often requiring penetration with objects, and often while the girls were crying and saying no. The scariest part is I have heard some of the girls formed a sort of Stockholm Syndrome attachment to him over time.

It really is vile what he did. I know most of the time on forums like these we walk in a grey area, but really there are just some lines that as human beings we should reject out of hand. The person who described it to me called it "basically rape", but really, depending on what state the girls lived in and thus what jurisdiction it is tried under (not to mention under federal law which he could also be tried under without double jeopardy applying due to the dual sovereignty doctrine) there is no "basically". Using blackmail to force someone to penetrate themselves is, in most jurisdictions, considered rape. And because of the girls' ages, which are aggravating factors under the law, he is never going to see the outside of a jail cell again.

I, personally, would love to follow along with this asshole's trial and see what he eventually gets hit with since the media isn't really covering it. So anything you got that doesn't violate Forum rules, I'd thank you for!

Can I ask you where have you heard that one of his girls get Stockholm syndrom? Or what was her name?
I personally think that if it is true that one of the girls that he was blackmailing get Stockholm syndrom, it was Athena. But that is only my personal suggestion, because I do not even heard that one of the girls get Stockholm syndrom before I have read your post.

As far as I know, he made long series including lots of Skype calls only with Athena, Hannah and Gabrielle. What was with other girls? Do you think that they simply refused to continue playing his "game" or did he leave them alone because he was not amused by them anymore?

By the way, one more question - take it as food for thought. Do you think that from moral perspective there is big difference between for example blackmailing 13 yo girl (Hannah) to do nasty and quite painful things (inserting handle of the brush in her asshole, gaping her asshole until when she even bleed, sucking banana until she nearly vomited, threating her until she became crying) and for example Realgirls stuff where girls usually around 18 yo (sometimes younger but sometimes also older) are also blackmailed to insert various things in all their holes, vomit, drink piss and smearing, licking or even eating their own shit?
Of course there is difference in the law - there are much more strict punishments for crimes committed against the children. But from moral point of view... to be honest I do not really see big difference between Ruben and Realgirls' producer. I see both as resembling.

Quote:'this asshole was banned from this forum.'

yet you guys still upload ruben sets in this forum. embarassing
 I think that Celina was 18 in the time when he was blackmailing her. I am not sure about it, it is only my surmise.
But I personally think, that girls blackmailed by Ruben which are not obviously underage should be allowed here given the fact that Realgirls are allowed here although they were sometimes forced do even more degrading things in their videos than Ruben's.

By the way, as far as I know and what I have seen, Ruben has not copro fetish so unlike Realgirls, he did not force his victims to do scat activities.
On time when he was really angry about Gabrielle because she was not obeying him, he forced her to piss in a cup and pour it on her head, but it was quite unusualness from him and I do not know that he force Gabrielle or any other girl to do it again.

I also do not know nothing about suicide of any of his victim, although there is no doubt that they were suffering. I heard some rumours that one of the girls (I personally think that most probably it was Gabrielle but again, it is only my suggestion) try to commit suicide, but fortunately she did not succeed and survived.

By the way it is interesting if Ruben really thinks that he is safe in Mexico, because Mexico usually obey orders from U.S. and at least extraditions their citizens almost in all cases when U.S. asked them to do. I understand it when if he was for example Russian, because Russia hardly ever extradite their citizens abroad  - but that is different story.

Do you have a suggestion how they caught him. I suppose that it was not really a big deal to track him, because of his pretty low security measures. But I wonder if some of his victims report everything to police or if his activities were revealed by some social site algorithm which consider his activities as suspicious and report him firstly to some moderators, which naturally immediately contacted police.
My understanding of the RealGirls series is that it wasn't blackmail. That the guy was paying his "slaves" to do things for him, and he just progressively pushed it further and further until they were smearing shit all over themselves. But it was more about extreme Master/Sub stuff than anything else. Now I could be wrong and perhaps it crossed the line into blackmail at some point? And if that's the case, then yes, that too would be morally reprehensible. I would, however, still make a serious distinction between an of age person and an underage person as the underage person is not going to have the resources or life experiences to even begin to process how to get themselves out of the situation. But the distinction is just in levels of awfulness. Both are complete and total shit actions. With the underage it's just even lower.



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#29
omg that terrifying



#30
It is awesome to see him standing there surrounded by police. He made some girls cut themselves and these girls weren't underage girls but adults who were afraid of their nudes being sent to their family members. So even being an adult doesn't mean you could find a way out of his demands like someone above suggested. It was basically this, do as I say or I shame you in front of your friends and family. The RG's series is a mix of both paid and black-mailed girls from what I have seen. Most of them look like they are not in distress and actually smile and moan etc so I think they are being paid. Honestly I never understood what anyone gets out of watching a girl take a dump and then smear it all over herself or even eating it. I am just happy this guy is getting what he deserves, yes we have all stumbled onto these videos and when I first saw them I thought what I always think when I see most "amateur looking" videos. That they are staged to fool people into thinking it is amateur. But no, this guy was really harming these girls and I hate that. Imagine it was your sister or daughter even depending on your age. She's hiding it from you, she's in your bathroom or her bedroom showing herself and crying because some scumbag wanted to jerk off to her. You'd want him dead.



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#31
One thing I do find amusing is for a guy that 99.9999999 percent of the time didn't talk or show his face (someone said he briefly showed his face on accident, I never seen it though I have only watched snippets of the videos that find their way onto normal cam porn sites) the stupid guy somehow attached his real first name to those albums. I mean his name was well known long before he got arrested. I would love to hear some of the talk between these girls now that he is caught, surely a lot of them have been contacted. I wish they all go and sit together in the court room when he goes on trial. I still want to hear them ask him if he wants them to SEND. Stupid guy always threatening these girls to send their pictures to their family members. What a loser I am so glad he got caught for this.



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#32
(05-05-2020, 02:30 AM)dorktail Wrote:
Quote:I can honestly say no. As soon as I was made aware of this situation, through a similar post, this asshole was banned from this forum.

Now the mod team still replies on users reporting this as people sometimes post post it under fake titles etc.

We have a zero tolerance policy on this
'this asshole was banned from this forum.'

yet you guys still upload ruben sets in this forum. embarassing

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#33
This is very interesting, thanks for raising this post lions88. I must admit when I first saw these videos (which some I have) I didn't know the ages, I saw one looked young but no age was specified, I was watching one and she said she was 15.. the guy literally asked "how old are you again?" I was very shocked and scared as I had CP on my laptop! I've since deleted the 2 girls I had as I know that one was under-age and the other questionable for sure. I do feel ashamed but I'm glad I found out about this guy and the story not long after.



#34
(25-08-2020, 06:40 AM)lions88 Wrote: For anyone curious, his trial has been continued (postponed) until December 1

big day tomorrow



#35
That’s some really messed up shit! I hope the asshole gets what he deserves.



#36
Hello,
so have you seen or do you know any news about Ruben and his trail? 
I'm very curious.



#37
crazy how there is no news coverage about the trial



#38
(04-12-2020, 08:41 AM)Spinooko Wrote: Hello,
so have you seen or do you know any news about Ruben and his trail? 
I'm very curious.

Looks like his trial has been pushed to March 2.

courtlistener. com/docket/7780885/united-states-v-rosales/



#39
'this asshole was banned from this forum.'

yet you guys still upload ruben sets in this forum. embarassing


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Embarrassing indeed



#40
I hadn't heard of him until reading this thread. I now know if I see something advertised as Rubin to stay clear of it. What a despicable scumbag.