Pence dodged a lot of his questions and his speeches often didn’t really respond to Harris. For example pence brings up the fact that Biden will increase taxes, and Harris says they are only taxing incomes over 400k. Then, pence proceeds to repeat his first claim without any evidence, which just makes him seem fixed on talking points and not able to actually debate his opponent. Same thing happened with the climate change debate. Pence had good emotional appeal but basically no substance in his speeches.