[olichan12]

This year basically seems like 'Bama and then everyone else....
I agree. Bama is the only team that's consistent. Then again, if they're at this level of consistency, then they're probably practicing year round/breaking a few NCAA rules. But money talks. And if the NFL ever wants Nick Saban, they'll get him, and Bama will drop in quality. That's how it is when NFL teams want college coaches.

What's sad is that these teams are sucking this much and it's week 5 now. Did no one get their shit together during Hell Week?

And now, in the Top 25 are Fresno State & Coastal Carolina. And somehow, Clemson is #25 with a 2-2 record, even though Fresno is at 4-1, and Coastal Carolina at 4-0? Did Clown World finally meet the NCAA?

[samw34099]

I am also pissed off with Clemson's ranking, but the AP poll is just meant to spark conversation...that is pretty much it. Clemson will sink further this year, win or lose, because the ACC is so weak...

Teams will get better but it is clear that COVID is going to make it so that we need at least another season to recover...

Two teams to watch for are Arkansas and BYU...BYU could very well go undefeated with their schedule....Arkansas has been racking up some wins and if they beat Georgia whooooo boy

[Otters4All]

None of the rankings matter right now anyway. Certainly a few headscratchers, though.

[olichan12]

>None of the rankings matter right now anyway. Certainly a few headscratchers, though.
Exactly. Though I think all the rankings are the product of some ESPN personality who got high out of his mind.

[samw34099]

'Bama 'bamaed...Georgia looked dominant but the hogs were missing their QB...wow CINCY! I thought it would happen sooner to ND but wow...Michigan whooped a 1-2 Wisky team but at Camp Randall so okay that's something...Oregon just crapped the bed--no clue WTF they were doing....

In earlier games Iowa looked incredible and BYU continues to quietly be undefeated with a very doable schedule.....

[olichan12]

Auburn looked absolutely shitty at first, and then kicked it into high gear in the 3rd. That quarterback of theirs has some talent, but so does his backup. LSU just couldn't handle it in the second half. But they were damn good in the first. If Auburn continues with that qb playing like that, they have top 10 potential.

Oklahoma has no business being in the top 10 after that performance at K State. K State. They're no powerhouse.

Kentucky spanked the fuck out of Florida. They're not in the top 10 anymore.

And Indiana held off Penn State. Their defense shut down Penn State's passing offense, but they faltered against PSU's run game. But the fact that they held PSU to 24 points tells you that PSU ain't as good as the Top 25 say.

But.... how is it that OK is still #6? Why is ND #14 and above unbeaten Coastal Carolina after the spanking Cincy gave them? And why the fuck are Ohio State and Oregon in the Top 10 at all when they both have one loss on their records? I fucking hate that fucking computer used by the NCAA to determine rankings.

Oh, and fuck Notre Dame. Glad Cincy fucked them proper.

[samw34099]

Really appreciate your thoughts on the Auburn game that I didn't get to see...very focused on 'Bama, and that turned out to be a clunker...also weird how PSU looks like junk but managed to beat Auburn--just gotta love college football...

I think OU will lose to Texas and all the hullaballoo will be over for them....on the other hand really good teams sometimes pack it in against what they feel is inferior competition...especially in college, you only get so many reps, which limits the size of your playbook, so wasting it on a team like K-State or Indiana can screw you against a Texas or Iowa down the line...that's my explanation...

Kentucky has been building for years and years...good recruiting and an underrated improvement in their 'brand'...I once saw an unboxing of their season tickets...really impressive...Stoops is doing God's work out there....

NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT BYU...they have just handled their business and are looking like they could go undefeated...

[olichan12]

>I think OU will lose to Texas and all the hullaballoo will be over for them
I can't predict this game at all. This is a rivalry game, so anything goes, and all bets are off. Unless this game is fixed, no one expects the outcome.
>Kentucky has been building for years and years
They're undefeated, but why are they so low on the Top 25?
>NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT BYU
Because no one likes Mormons lol. But really, Michigan and BYU should both be ranked higher than Ohio State and Oregon, as they're undefeated, and TOSU and Oregon both have losses. Even Michigan Stats should be above TOSU and Oregon!
Overall, I think the Top 25 is simply a wish list of who those with money want to win the National Championship, and use this as propaganda, to make sure that people agree with them. Propaganda, in other words.

In my mind, the Top 10 should be:
1. 'Bama
2. Georgia
3. PSU
4. Idiots Out Wandering Around
5. Cincy
6. BYU
7. Michigan State
8. Discount Oklahoma (OSU)
9. Kentucky
10. Coastal Carolina

For this week's fun:
- I feel bad for Texas A&M as they face 'Bama.
- The Boise State/BYU game looks like that will be a lot of fun.
- I get to see Nebraska lose again, to Michigan this time. Karma is finally catching up with NU.
- Kentucky/LSU is going to be a fight. But will LSU's defense be able to stop them?
- Ohio State has an easy win at Maryland. I think.
- Iowa/PSU is going to upset the entire Top 10.

College footbal is one of the few good things left in this country. If it comes out that the FCS and the FBS are rigged, I can see lots of angry men and alums of both sexes doing bad, bad things.

[samw34099]

Good point about OU/Texas...rivalry games are always nuts...

...absolutely right about Kentucky--they should be ranked higher....AND Oregon/OSU should be lower, but I think Oregon's situation is that there needs to be a chance for a PAC-12 representative...I think Michigan needs a game against a good team to believe in them, but things are looking pretty good...

...BYU/BSU is going to be amazing (they consider each other rivals--only heard that pretty recently)...Nebraska is a very tricky game for Michigan b/c they are so much better than their record (probably should've won against MSU)...Iowa at Kinnick is always spooky--I wouldn't be surprised to see PSU lose in a very low-scoring game because Iowa has a great ability to drag you down to their level...OSU and 'Bama will spank their opponents...I don't know how much more leash Jimbo Fischer has at A&M...

[olichan12]

Cincy destroyed Temple last night, 52-3. That's a little misleading. It was 17-0 at halftime. So I don't know if that was because Cincy was lazy, or if Temple was putting up a fight. The end number looks pretty, but Cincy's execution may not be as good as it should have been. Cincy has an easy schedule from here on out, so I can see them going undefeated.

Arizona State beat Stanford 28-10 tonight. ASU is supposed to win the Pac-12, while Stanford is considered to have a snowball's chance in hell of winning it. The problem was that Stanford held their own against ASU. Their only problem was that they couldn't stop making mistakes. Stupid mental mistakes. I think that's the only reason ASU won. And I don't believe that ASU will win the Pac-12. They aren't as good as Oregon despite being ranked #22.

I can't wait to see Nebraska get btfo by Michigan. NU is on the outs and their program sucks right now. Karma is paying their program back.

And I hope that the OU/Texas game is a shootout with tons of penalties.

BYU and BSU are rivals because they're the two schools from primarily Mormon towns. BYU thinks it should be in a better conference, and BSU keeps showing them otherwise. I expect that to be a shootout as well.

[samw34099]

I hit the sack early expecting Cincy to win...sometimes these things can get waaaaay outta hand when either one team's running game finally tires out the DL or the other team simply runs out of tricks that allow the offense to stay on the field....or an injury--I hope it wasn't that...you are absolutely right about Cincy....and the committee is going to have some debate about some potential 1-loss team and them...let's see how ND looks for the rest of the year, as that is probably their best win...

ASU is an interesting team and the weirdest thing for me about that game is the penalties...Stanford is usually so disciplined...I agree that in a head to head matchup ASU and Oregon wouldn't be much of a game...Oregon really should've beaten Stanford...anyway, ASU and Oregon don't play this year unless it'll be in the PAC-12's championship game...that's not outta the question....

I am no Scott Frost fan....but his team is going to be very dangerous this year...they have a ton of offense at their disposal and their record is deceptive...think I mentioned I watched MSU/Nebraska and MSU couldn't really move the ball...it was completely nuts

OU/Texas hasn't had great implications for years...but I will take your word for it...be interested to see if Rattler can finally look like a decent QB...I think the issue with OU's offense is the OL but I haven't seen their games TBH

Interesting that you didn't mention PSU/Iowa at Kinnick...top 10 matchup that sounds like a total snoozefest...Iowa could definitely win but they have used up all their magic..I saw this hilarious description of playing Iowa as 'running your face into their fist'....if you play Iowa's style, get dragged into the mud with them, you will probably lose...Franklin is such an idiot that will probably happen..

MSU/Rutgers could get interesting...Rutgers has a very competent defensive front that gave Michigan something to think about for a half...

Thanks for the info about BYU/Boise State...had no idea that Boise was a big Mormon town...be very interested to see what happens because BYU is another candidate to go undefeated....imagine an undefeated Cincy and undefeated BYU!

[Otters4All]

So PSU was crushing Iowa but then lost their (apparently only) QB midway through the second quarter, and then Iowa barely won....my takeaway is that both were overrated.

[samw34099]

Oh they are both overrated for sure....if Nebraska let's Scott Frost finish out this season, they're going to beat Iowa....

[olichan12]

I think today proved the the Top 10 are NOT as good as everyone says they are. Every one of them ran into teams that could hold them in check, even if that team ended up losing. Now that we're done with the part of the season where the Top 10 beat up smaller schools, we can finally see which of the Top 10 are worth a damn.

Notable games:
- Texas A&M beat #1 Alabama! Glad to see 'bama's ego get cut down by a much "weaker" team.
- Iowa/PSU was a tough game, and could've gone either way. PSU obviously drops in the rankings, but they showed themselves to be about equal.
- OU/Texas was the shootout I thought it was. Came down to the last minute of the game. Wish I could've watched it live. Had to settle for a halftime summary of it.
- I knew that Nebraska would find a way to lose against Michigan. That Karma is bititng them in the ass. They're going to be the only BCS school with a lot of talent and cash but shitty execution. Scott Frost is going to get fired at some point.
- ND might've won, but they showed that they are NOT a Top 15 team. San Diego State should probably be ranked higher than them.
- Coastal Carolina destroyed AR State. I think they need more challenging opponents.
- BYU doesn't belong in the Top 25 after what Boise State did to them.
- Interestingly, like you said, MSU had a hard time against Nebraska, but so did Michigan. I'm guessing Michigan did better agains them than MSU.

This is what I think the Top 10 should be.
1. Georgia
2. Iowa
3. OK
4. Cincy
5. Kentucky
6. OK State
7. Michigan
8. Michigan State
9. SMU
10. Coastal Carolina

Of course, the NCAA isn't going to agree with me, and I'm sure somehow that TOSU and 'bama will be in the Top 10 because tradition and money.

Thoughts?

[samw34099]

great breakdown...i'lll start with the games...

Ala-effn'-bama....I have read things on twitter that Jimbo was sandbagging all year..even taking losses to not open up the playbook...and maybe this was a very smart plan...not many teams say 'we can beat 'Bama...very interested to see how A&M closes out the year...interested to see if they exposed anything with 'Bama that other teams can take advantage of...very interesting development brewing...

iowa-psu was actually a great game...I expected boring and bad execution...it was anything but...very interesting play design from iowa especially to seal it up...the difference-maker was almost certainly homefield advantage...psu lost Clifford in that game...his backup did not look ready..the backup is a speedy kid from NJ who can't read or throw very well...it might be a very big deal to them this season...

OU/Texas was nuts...people were saying Rattler was going to transfer at half-time...and then OU found a way...just very impressive that they could come back...I didn't see any of the game but it was so weird to hear they were down and then see that they were going to win it...Xavier Worthy is the Truth...very speedy kid for Texas....future is bright for them...

Nebraska/Michigan looked like it was over at halftime...Nebraska really pushed the boundaries of the rules to make Michigan's life hard--late substitutions, illegal formations...Nebraska is talented and executes incredibly badly....Michigan seemed to do a lot of growing up according to the announcers...only second game on the road...came back from behind in the 4th quarter...had to figure out things on the fly...Memorial Stadium was absolutely rocking...very possible Frost doesn't make it out of the weekend with a job...I didn't see MSU play Nebraska but it is really hard to say which team is better...both teams have done pretty well...

BYU cocked it up against Boise...I am only upset because I was telling every1 they could make the playoffs and I ended up wrong...must be a huge disappointment for them, now...I will proabably stop watching them...

Not keeping an eye on Costal Carolina...very interesting season for them but no way they have the schedule to do any real damage...

Gotta factor in SOS for your top 10...I would definitely flipy Cincy and Kentucky...I view Florida/LSU as better wins...you are absolutely right that 1-loss OSU and Bama will be in the top 10..they probably shouldn't be either...

[olichan12]

After seeing the new Top 25, it becomes clear that the NCAA is desperate to keep TOSU, 'bama, and PSU, in the actual BCS in January. This is the new Top 10, and half shit.
1. Georgia
2. Iowa
3. Cincy
4. OK
5. 'bama
6. TOSU
7. PSU
8. Michigan
9. Oregon
10. MSU

They made their biases pretty clear with this grouping. How is 'bama #5 when now-#21 Texas A&M beat them solidly? PSU shouldn't be in the Top 10 even though the PSU/IU game was close. And TOSU has had really weak out of conference opponents the last three weeks, so their ranking is utter shit. That should count against them, not for them, because any FBS team can score 50 points against weak FCS teams. If we factor in SOS for TOSU, then TOSU should be #17 or less. So their ranking is a joke.

I pray that TOSU/PSU/'bama all get a second loss so that they stay out of the BCS.

On Nebraska: NU has played dirty since Bob Devaney coached them in the early 60s. That's the reason why no one in the Big 12 liked them, and why the refs always ruled against them. They have no problem playing dirty. At the same time, they can't execute for shit. They have all this money and genuine talent, but they can't execute. And they always find a way to shoot themselves in the foot. They will probably fire Frost at the end of the season, rather than Tuesday, because the team is already chaotic. That'll just destroy the season right there. But Nebraska has done stupider shit. I'm just glad that Karma is finally catching up to them.

This week's possibly good games:
- #1 GA vs #11 Kentucky
- #5 'bama vs Missisippi State
- #19 BYU at Baylor
- #21 Texas A&M vs Missouri

That's it. Everything else looks like games that are easy wins. TOSU has a bye week this week. Guess that 51 point victory was too much for them and they need extra rest.

If you wanna look at the Top 25 list, here you go: www ncaa com / news / football / article / 2021-10-10 / college-football-rankings-top-25-scores-schedule-week-7
You will probably find this list to be shit, but also find that this week's Top 25 have basically easy games. Here's to hoping that life trolls the fuck out of the NCAA and forces a Coastal Carolina vs San Diego State national championship game.

[samw34099]

def love your passion here...very hard to argue with your points...

'Bama's loss to an unranked A&M should really bounce them from the top 10...TOSU has a much stronger case to get bounced, but at least their loss was to a then-ranked Oregon team...the B1G East will sort itself out whatever the rankings because all of PSU/MSU/OSU/Michigan will beat up on each other...if one comes out without a loss, even with a loss entering that crapstorm I think that team has a good case to be in the BCS...dunno what you think...neway I think that is why OSU/PSU are getting a pass...it will all start to sort itself out...'Bama--I mean, that's a legit questionable defense...something is going wrong with them...their toughest game is Georgia...Georgia smells blood in the water...can't wait...

I didn't know all that about Nebraska...thank you for that information....I think from that game, you are 100% right about their problems...very, very creative--incredible play design, incredible strategy...but missed assignments and execution were just at a horrible level...and they played dirty, but not like 'late hit dirty'....they would be misaligned and wait for the playclock to wind down before making a substitution...Frost was pulling out all the stops...here is my crazy thought for the day...Nebraska is actually really, really close to being amazing...their defense has it together...their offense needs to mature another year...that's it...they have an advantage in scheme with Frost...especially big games....firing Frost makes a ton of sense...but keeping him would be the shcoking but also wiser thing to do...

I think UGA brings Kentucky back to earth...but still a huge season for Kentucky and they might lose Stoops after this with openings at other potential places like Nebraska...MSU and 'Bama is interesting because 'Bama lost but really MSU should get curbstomped by a very angry Nick Saban...Leach is a hilarious guy but his team doesn't have the talent to hang with 'Bama...no more opinions on BYU screw those guys for making me look bad...very interested to see how A&M looks after that win against 'Bama..Jimbo needs to get them fired up...no clue how good MIssouri is this year

Coastal vs. SDSU would be hilarious...

[olichan12]

PSU has a bye week this week, but guess who they get to play on the 30th? That's right, TOSU! Exactly what the NCAA didn't want, but can't avoid. One of those two are going to get booted out of the BCS and just into a regular bowl game. I hope TOSU is the one booted out. They need a reality check considering their schedule is all about playiing Div. II squads and winning by 50 points.

'bama.... they have an easy schedule the rest of the season. Their only real challenges are AR State and Auburn, the latter being a challenge only because they're rivals. 'bama's SOS just went right out the window.

Kentucky plays UGA this weekend. Now THAT will be a fun game! Two undefeateds going against each other. And there can be only one! That's the game of the week right there. I have no idea who will win that one, but I hope its like illegal fireworks on the 4th of July all around. That's their last tough game. Everything else is easy peasy.

Aside from PSU, TOSU has two more challenging games: MSU on 11/20, and UM the following weekend. One way or another, TOSU can't afford to lose another game, but now, their SOS goes way up because of those three games. And they also face getting booted out of the BCS *and* getting into a low-ranking bowl game. They face Indiana on the 23rd, and Nebraska the week after, but that's it for easy games. Unless Nebraska gets its head out of its ass. I doubt that.

Speaking of Nebraska, I know waaaaayyyyyyy too much about their football program. And I'm not a fan of it. Since I brought them up, this is my guess: I think Scott Frost is going to be fired. But - I think that the Athletic Department has been looking for his replacement since the beginning of the season. And my guess is that Nebraska is gunning for Urban Meyer. He might wanna dip over to USC, but it's not the right place for him. I suspect that Nebraska has been pulling out all the stops to get Meyer. Think of it as not only a coup, but an in-your-face to TOSU, Nebraska's only way of beating TOSU. That's the NU Athletic Department's logic right there. I can't prove any of that, but that's my gut instinct. And honestly, I want Meyer at NU, so that I can laugh at him as he finally has a failing program to his name.

I hate the NCAA sooooo much. And I hate what they've done to college football.

[samw34099]

great thoughts here again...

i think we are seeing the smae things with the B1G East...big games for PSU/OSU/MSU/Michigan...right now OSU has a highly-ranked defense but has played nobody...PSU is harder to read...6th-ranked defense but against Iowa and Auburn....it is really hard to say...no question that if Clifford doesn't come back for PSU that OSU is going to destroy them...PSU needs a steady QB...

I don't know too much about 'Bama...looked up their schedule and I saw Arkansas and LSU on there...I think LSU is dangerous because Coach O is borderline coaching for his job and they def have talent...Arkansas is a different thing--solid team that might pull an A&M by creating a shadow playbook that gets unleashed on 'Bama...that is all I could see there...you're right...pretty weak SOS....

Kentucky UGA is going to be a war...interesting is that Kentucky has PSU's former backup QB on their team...kid is playing lights-out...crazy it's a 2:30 game...probably because no one thought it would be such a huge matchup lol...

OSU has some challenging games...Nebraska doesn't have to win to screw up their season...but I think Nebraska is very dangerous...that said, OSU has a killer passing attack and Michigan had receivers getting open who weren't getting hit...our discussion of OSU made me look up Michigan's schedule...their schedule is great...it seems that they play an 'easy' team before they play a real challenging one...for example, playing Northwestern the week before MSU is just about as good as MSU's bye....I will keep my eye on Michigan this year...

Re: coaching...Gruden now has his hat in the ring...I didn't see the e-mails, and maybe he is too difficult to hire right now...but I would love him for USC...then Meyer goes to Nebraska...Meyer at Nebraska would be hell for everyone else...but I think they are B1G West...it would bring back some balance....

[olichan12]

I think that Nebraska can be dangerous... if they can figure out how not to shoot themselves in the foot/execute plays properly. Morale is low on that team, and this past weekend's game basically destroyed every bit of morale that the team has. I don't see them surviving TOSU.

Gruden... now THAT is an interesting twist. One of his emails gets leaked and he suddenly has to resign from the Raiders. Heh. It sounds like someone needed Gruden to go to the college ranks, and so arranged for this. This is a lot like how Pete Carrol left the NFL to go to USC. And how Pete Carrol was forced to go to the NFL from USC. So Gruden to USC and Meyer to NU? I'm ok with this. He's not too difficult to hire right now, he just needed enough of a bs excuse to leave. Or someone else did. Either way, he's free, and we'll see where he goes. And I guarantee that other persons in the NFL speak and write emails similar to what Gruden said. They're pretty blunt.

If UK/UGA is at 2:30, then that's the one game everyone will try to watch. It's probably going to be blacked out where I'm at. I hate that.